You Are Waiting For Tonight’s Audio? Here you go!

You want to listen to the call tonight? We are providing it.!gYFAFbBQ!ESh9uRjuv_-_AWsiEPlXjVA_koc8n8dw7bFLuhvOnwg

You will have to download it to hear it. Some of it is pretty boring. However, if you want to type it up for people to read, we will buy a pizza.

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Tonight’s Conference

Everyone involved, and everyone we have talked to, enjoyed being able to speak their voice.

With what we bring to you, and what you can bring to us, we hope that we can help everyone.

We hope, in the future, to bring you another call from another person very close to this mess.

All of you have a good evening. Go enjoy some family time. I think we are all headed for the same direction.

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Red Rock Ordnance Was Hacked! Not Really, But Nice Claim

The radio show is still set to air. We are not asking you to download anything. You can simply call into the show. You can check for yourself that the site we are using to host is legitimate. We have a suspicion that Round Rock Ordnance and Charles Clifton will be listening in. Here is your chance to say what you really feel!

Research for yourself, please! We trust in transparency. We want you to do your own research. Red Rock Ordnance and Charles Clifton do not.

This comes for the FaceBook page of Round Rock Ordnance:

WARNING. We have been hacked. Many of you have been messaged and asked to join a meeting and DOWNLOAD a file to participate. This is a pilfering scam being undertaken by several individuals with a personal vendetta against RRO’s. Their claims are baseless and motives are less than honorable.

Never trust anyone who asks you to download anything to your computer. We believe that at least one of the people behind this is the same person who has gained illegal access to our databases, financial records and banks accounts.

This person or people have likely committed crimes in gaining access to confidential information and is likely making it worse by spreading it. We have seen what is posted, know who it/they is/are and are taking corrective action behind the scenes to deal with these inaccurate and incomplete information releases.

CRITICAL- It is highly likely that the email you have received contains tracking and key logging codes. If you have not, do not open it or click on any links. These people have violated ALL of your privacy and have made your email addresses public. We are working to determine if any other information has been stolen and will update everyone as we proceed. All information security recommendations apply.

Again, do not download anything, RRO has nothing to do with theses messages and the individual(s) that are behind it may be engaged in criminal activity.

We are working with Facebook and our ISP to un-do the damage done by these people. This may cause our Facebook page and/or website be go offline now and again over the next few days.

We are still working on everyone’s refunds and will continue to do so. We are going to be posting a shipping and general update within 48 hours.”

Somebody worried, Charles?

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Important Blog Talk Radio Today at 6:00 p.m. Eastern Details Inside

We have one of the contractors from Red Rock Ordnance, Charles Clifton’s fraud company, willing to speak with you regarding the dealings. We will be on-air for 2 hours maximum. We may do this again if we can get interest. Details below for just calling in. If you want to use your computer, you should have received an email. This broadcast will be recorded and posted this this Blog, as well as other sites.

US Toll-Free Number: (855) 212-0212
Meeting ID: 209-892-090


At the scheduled date and time of the meeting, dial into the conference line. When prompted, enter the meeting ID, followed by the pound key. To join the online meeting, click on the meeting link listed above, then press “Join”. On the next page, complete your name and email address, then press “Submit”. The system will guide you through the process of downloading the meeting dashboard to participate in the online meeting.

To ensure easier access to your meeting at the scheduled time, we recommend downloading the StartMeeting software in advance.


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Just A Teaser Re Red Rock Ordnance, Charles Clifton, @RedRockOrd

Sorry folks, we can only give a teaser, because we only give out public information pursuant to our own ethics. Until we can confirm this document, we cannot release the full thing. Until then, take it at face value:

Neither Charles Clifton nor Red Rock Ordnance LLC have sufficient capacity to pay the amounts owed to REDACTED for the funds advanced for the purchase of the equipment made the subject of matter of this lawsuit. Unless Charles Clifton and Red Rock Ordnance LLC are restrained from selling, encumbering  removing from Bastop County, destruction or concealing all equipment purchased with funds of REDACTED, REDACTED will be irreparably injured in that property owned by it and property that it has inequitable lien on will in all probability be sold to third parties, concealed, removed from the state or damaged, given the desire of Charles Clifton to use the equipment to gain leverage over REDACTED.

We do have the entire document, but, unfortunately, confirmation is not in yet. Once it is, the entire document will be posted.

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How Are You Going To Get You Money Back From Charles Clifton, Red Rock Ordnance @RedRockOrd ? Details Inside!

So the post that you all have been waiting for!

If you used PayPal to buy your product from Red Rock Ordnance, Charles Clifton, et. al. you may or may not have noticed that it, most likely, went into an account for TacOut. TacOut is another shell company of Charles Clifton and his wife Barbara (read previous posts to know that TacOut is part of this shell group).

Now for the fun part. PayPal limited the accounts of Charles Clifton (under all of its accounts). This is because Chic (Charles Clifton) and crew removed the money before shipping your product. Charles Clifton got notice from PayPal, and called them up to schmooze them. This means he was able to remove your money, and now guess who is on the line. That is right folks, PayPal allowed them to remove the money before shipping your product, which is against their own Terms of Service (TOS).

In the meantime, Red Rock Ordnance moved to using a merchant gateway through Wells Fargo, in an effort to bypass PayPal’s restrictions on how much money they could remove. It was very efficient that WellsFargo dumped your credit card payments directly into their bank account.  That might be something for you to look into.  Though at last comment, this wasn’t good enough because they throttled how much money be processed in a day, why? Because WellsFargo is on the line when they don’t ship and don’t refund!

PayPal is now liable to pay you back. I am sure if you subpoenaed those accounts, you would see exactly what I am talking about.  Any company who went against their own TOS, and against the law, is liable to recover your funds, even it it be out of their pockets.  Don’t forget that according to PayPal, selling gun parts is against their TOS in the first place.

For the rest of you, please note that the only way you are going to recoup your money is through law enforcement. We will keep you updated on this blog of any federal criminal charges, as well as any civil claims that you might want to join.

Please, can you follow us at and in an effort to get this information out. Spread the word so that we can help you!

We will be working to get you the names of the banking and PayPal accounts. Hopefully you can recoup something!

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More of Following the Money of Charles Clifton and Red Rock Ordnance @RedRockOrd

Here are some more of the corporate filings for the companies that have left a wave and destruction and debt across several states. Charles Clifton and Barbara Colliton, now doing business under Red Rock Ordnance and Red Rock Armory, have used these companies to scam in the past.

Clifton Scan  Ohio Corporations

Clifton Scan  Florida and Wyoming Corporations

Remember to reference this post with the previous post here.

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Time to Start Tracking the Money of Charles Clifton and Red Rock Ordnance @RedRockOrd

There are several places and accounts that the money that you have paid to these not-so upstanding citizens has gone. Most of it has gone to the pockets of Charles Clifton himself. Below is the trail of companies that were registered in Charles Clifton’s name, as well as those of his wife, Barbara Colliton (Clifton). Take special note of Red Rock Armory LLC.

Clifton Scan LLC Filings

Clifton Background Scan Former and Current Companies

Remember folks, if you sue, you will need to tell your counsel about these companies, too, since they were used to defraud you and hide the money.

In a future post, we will explain why a certain financial institution may be on the hook to refund your money, so there may be hope for some of you.

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Latest Filings from Texas Regarding Red Rock Ordnance, Charles Clifton @RedRockOrd

Seems some fun went down in Texas today. This is just one of the many filings that went down, but it is very important, We have another affidavit, and it is even more damning:



County of REDACTED )


I, REDACTED, being first duly sworn, upon oath, depose and say:

That I am the principle owner of REDACTED via it’s parent company, REDACTED. doing business in the State of REDACTED.

That in January 2013, Charles Clifton retained REDACTED’s services on behalf of Red Rock Ordinance (RRO). The nature of the agreement was for REDACTED to provide technical support, marketing support, and business management consultation.

That REDACTED was very successful on the technical and marketing portions of the agreement, however RRO had trouble following the business management recommendations, which generally centered around shipping product before continuing to transact sales.

That Mr. Clifton made the assertion that the reason they had not shipped product was due to lack of management on the part of Ben REDACTED, who was in control of a facility in Red Rock, Texas, and that they were in the process of terminating his employment due to squatting and daily alcohol abuse while on premises.

That, around that same time, Mr. Clifton solicited me for a weeklong, onsite consultation,and I agreed. The agreed purpose of my consultation was to bring the Red Rock facility into production.

That I flew down to Texas on March 26th, 2013, and began my consult. RRO instructed me not to rent accommodations, and to, instead, stay at the home of the Clifton’s.

That during this entire stay, I saw very little management of RRO. Mr. and Mrs. (Barb) Clifton abused alcohol every night of the 7 nights I was there, and generally got up at 10-11am. after advising me that I would need to be awake around 6:00 a.m. each morning so we could start working each day.

That on a daily basis, while I was on consult, they misused corporate funds for personal purchases. The two regular employees that were there each weekday in the capacity of landscaping and babysitting, and were paid with corporate checks.

That the night of March 26th, 2013, was spent with Charles Clifton, REDACTED  (another contractor), and myself, discussing the status of the RRO facility. Mr. Clifton informed us that Ben REDACTED was, in fact, a venture capitalist, and not an employee, who had invested roughly two hundred twenty thousand dollars ($220,000) into RRO without being under a contract. Further, we were informed that, upon Mr. Clifton receiving the proposed contract, he disagreed with the terms. Mr. Clifton went on to inform us the relationship with Mr. Ben REDACTED had degraded after he had a verbal altercation with Mr. Ben REDACTED wherein Mr. Clifton lost his temper, and allegedly, and inadvertently, threatened Mr. Ben REDACTED.

That they drank until 1:00 a.m. on this occasion, talking about retiring back to the Dominican Republic. I went to bed at the same time.

That the Cliftons had brand new beds purchased and setup by their staff in each of the two previously empty bedrooms on the ground floor of the house. I stayed in one of those rooms. I was not able to get sleep as the 8 kenneled dogs they have, as well as their children, kept me awake with their barking and noise for most of the night.

That March 27th, 2013, was spent in many hours of discussion regarding business issues regarding the separation of Mr. Ben REDACTED and RRO. Mr. REDACTED spent the majority of the day trying to locate a security company to handle a ‘Hostile Employee Termination’ as Mr. Clifton asserted that Mr. Ben REDACTEDwas a violent alcoholic who was squatting for the purpose of forcing him to sign an unreasonable contract for venture capital.

That Mr. Clifton instructed everyone to steal back a document he had given Mr. Ben REDACTED as proof of cash flow during his negotiations with him for venture capital. The document was described as a PayPal transaction printout with customer names and email addresses removed.

That March 28th, 2013, was my first visit to the facility. My instructions were to carry out any steps that I saw fit to turn the shop into a functional production facility.

That the shop was not production ready before or after this visit. Two of the three CNC machines were not wired in, and despite repeated questions, Mr. Clifton could not provide the g-code to program the third. None of the machines were technically capable of producing the components necessary for the product sold by RRO.

That I was told that the Fadal which was connected to power was for the purpose of cutting AR15 lower receiver blanks, which was not an item being sold by RRO. All machines lacked programming. All Machines lacked fixtures and complete tooling setups. Two of the machines had not been physically installed and would have presented a safety hazard if they were powered.

That after roughly two hours, I was instructed to tear down and remove all easy to move equipment of value from the premises. During this time, I learned that Mr. Ben REDACTED was a co-signer on the building’s lease.

That on March 29th, 2013, Charles Clifton, two of his “ranch” employees, Mr. REDACTED, and myself removed consumable materials and office equipment from the leased shop in Red Rock, Texas. A sheriff standby was requested for our protection, and a deputy stayed onsite through the duration. We were told by Mr. Clifton that all materials we were removing were property of RRO, and unencumbered prior to going to the site.

That during the removal I was instructed by Mr. Clifton to remove a set of cutting heads for a Fadal CNC machine. I enquired as to ownership and was told that they belonged to RRO. Upon returning to the residence of Mr. and Mrs. Clifton, I was instructed by Mrs. Clifton to hide the cutting heads on the top shelf of a closet. The closet was in their house rather than in a separate building where we were instructed to store the rest of the materials. I was told later on that night by Mr. Clifton that the cutting heads were not, in fact, property of RRO, and that Mr. Clifton had been contacted by the police.

When I enquired as to why Mr. Clifton wanted these items removed, I was told that they wanted to make sure that Mr. Ben REDACTED would not be successful in manufacturing with the Fadal machine, and that they would have better leverage in their intended lawsuit.

That I set up two computer workstations in their dining room to help them move forward with production. On these workstations I installed “SolidWorks 2013” and “Mastercam”. Both programs were licensed and legitimate. In my professional experience this normally represents around eight thousand dollars($8,000) worth of software. I asked Mr Clifton what he would like to do with the machines and where he was keeping his CAD files. He explained that RRO did not have any CAD files to derive cutting information from, and that he would need me to acquire some for him. I explained that, while I did have some, I didn’t have all the files necessary for an AR15

Bolt Carrier Group. He offered one thousand dollars($1,000) for the Bolt Carrier CAD file if I was able to acquire one. I provided the remaining CAD files that I did have.

That the morning of March 30th, 2013, when I used the computer I had set up the night before, I noticed that someone had used it to access my personal email and memory key without my knowledge or permission.

That March 31st, 2013, I purchased a CAD file of an AR15 Bolt Carrier with my company’s funds, and provided it for use by RRO. I spent the day configuring a CNC mill (X3 Mini-Mill that was supposed to go to Colorado, which did not get shipped because it waiting for parts, i.e. part clamping fixtures and an upgrade to the z-axis motor.) for shipment and use to Victory Defense in Colorado. That night I was told that Mrs. Clifton was very angry with a woman they had staying with them, Jessica REDACTED, because she had found out, by accessing Ms. REDACTED’s cellular phone, without her knowledge or permission, and while she was out of the house, that the woman was attracted to me. This escalated into multiple arguments between them.

That on April 1st, 2013, Mr. Clifton accompanied me to an electronics retailer so I could advise him on surveillance equipment. He purchased surveillance equipment stating that he was securing his property against Mr. Ben REDACTED and angry customers. At the same time he purchased the equipment, he also purchased additional surveillance equipment with the stated intention of spying on Ms. REDACTED.

That on April 2nd, 2013, Mr. Clifton left to Houston, Texas transporting a trailer of metal barstock and cutting lubricant to a shop that he was hiring to begin cutting the Bolt Carrier portion of the product using the CAD file I had provided. I missed my flight waiting for the return of some of my property the Cliftons had removed from me without my knowledge, and had to reschedule for the next day.

That on April 3rd, 2013, I flew back to my home state, deciding that my storage devices were of less value than continually rescheduling my flight again. To date my personal storage has not been return to me and has been effectively stolen by the Cliftons.

That to date RRO, to the best of my knowledge, is selling a product they have never shipped, nor have the financial or technical ability to produce. Further, they are using intellectual property provided by REDACTED that they do not have rights to use as a basis of production, and have not have not paid for.

That I had access to the bank, e-commerce, and PayPal accounts as part of the technology side of REDACTED’s services, and, to the best of my knowledge, RRO has received over four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000) in customer purchases, and two hundred twenty thousand dollars ($220,000) in venture capital. This money has not resulted in any benefit to any party other than RRO, Charles Clifton and Barb Clifton, and, to the last of my knowledge, on April 1st, 2013, only one hundred sixty thousand dollars($160,000) of it remained.

That, upon my return to the State of redacted, I terminated my contract with RRO due to my belief that they are an unethical company based on the above things that I viewed while I was in Texas.

Folks, if you want more information on what we redacted, you are going to have to call up that Texas Court yourselves. We are trying to protect the innocents the best we can.

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Stealing food from Orphans since 2009 Charles Clifton @RedRockOrd

Hot on the heels of the last post wherein Charles Clifton, now of Red Rock Ordnance (@redrockord), and formerly of Humanitarian Defense, someone felt this was appropriate:

charles clifton humanitarian defense red rock ordinance fraud 3

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